Okay, here's the deal. This jacket would be perfect if it weren't so darn heavy. It's a perfect winter jacket but would not work on weather at 60 and above. If it has zip out lining, this would be perfect in every sense of the word. I exchanged it for an "XXL" since an xl was way too small in the chest and arms which I have to admit I've never experienced in a "casual" jacket. Every jacket I own is XL. Anyway, it's sturdy for sure, very heavy weight wise and would have be perfect if the very heavy lining was removable. But I'll keep it since it's so well made it will last me into another life time.